Showing posts with label Comparison Test. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Comparison Test. Show all posts

Friday, October 17, 2008

Car & Driver Magazine Comparo; 09 Chevrolet Traverse LT, 08 Hyundai Veracruz, 08 Mazda CX-9, 08 Toyota Highlander, 09 Ford Flex, and 09 Honda Pilot


We compare six family haulers and, amazingly, drown none of them.
BY JOHN PHILLIPS, PHOTOGRAPHY BY AARON KILEY November 2008

When we last visited Michigan’s Drummond Island [“Mud Puppies,” February 2008], we compared nine Lilliput SUVs and quickly found ourselves in over our heads. Which is to say, we sank a Jeep Liberty. See, the island—a short ferry ride from the eastern tip of the state’s Upper Peninsula—is a 25-mile-long series of limestone bowls (which hold water) and cedar swamps (ditto) surrounded by Lake Huron (ditto times a million). Drummond Island, thou art thine own soggy enemy.

This time, we asked Drummond Island Resort’s driving expert, Craig Hoffman, to sketch out a somewhat drier 16-mile loop, two-thirds of which comprised twisty, smooth pavement and one-third of which bumped through the resort’s private off-road facility. On any off-roader’s scale of difficulty, these private trails (notice we said “private” twice?) hover wholly in Wally Cox territory yet still represent pretty much the worst that any owner would throw at his investment. Along this route, we then ran the vehicles back-to-back until the local bowling alley’s neon “BEER” sign lit up.
Our goal was to compare six mid-size unibody crossovers with all-wheel drive, third-row seats, and the sort of interior volumes that would ensure family-hauling nirvana.

The Honda Pilot and the Toyota Highlander have recently been comprehensively refurbished, inside and out. Chevy’s Traverse is the latest flavor of the platform shared with Buick’s Enclave, GMC’s Acadia, and Saturn’s Outlook. The Traverse is the first we’ve tested with the direct-injection V-6, but the other three also get it for ’09. Hyundai’s Veracruz isn’t brand-new but has never competed in a C/D comparo. Having secured a position on our ’08 5Best Trucks list, Mazda’s CX-9 simply had to be in the mix. And although a Ford Taurus X might have looked a better fit in this group, we opted for the brand-new Flex. Both rely on the same drivetrain, and the Taurus X is soon to be discontinued.

Unibodies were the order of the day, so body-on-framers, such as Nissan’s Path­finder, were excluded. Ditto a couple of crossovers with notably smaller interior volumes—Subaru’s Tribeca, for instance.

We had hoped that with AWD and a nice load of options our vehicles would all max out at about $38,000. Alas, the only Highlander that Toyota could offer, at least with a third-row seat, was a loaded $42,799 Limited, so we used it for back-seat tests only. The Highlander Sport we drove to the island had no third-row seat and was sparsely outfitted—cloth seats, for instance—but was a whale of a bargain at $33,648. Adding a third row to our car would bump its price to $34,433, which is the number we used in the chart and for scoring purposes.

We were disappointed that our six crossovers managed an observed average of only 19 mpg. Sign of the times: On the way north, we observed a man riding a Schwinn. With a bag of golf clubs slung over his shoulder and a full-size Igloo cooler in his left hand, he was a candidate for a closed head injury. “What you got there,” observed associate editor Tony Quiroga, “is a guy with an SUV parked in his garage.”
****1st Place****
2009 Honda Pilot EX-L 4WD
Highs: A veritable woodsman off-road, torsional rigidity of an I-beam.
Lows: Cluttered center stack, a firm ride, could use another 20 horses.
The Verdict: A civilized crossover that feels as unbreakable as a truck.
Link to the full review;
****2nd Place****
2008 Mazda CX-9 Grand Touring AWD
Highs: Luxurious cabin, unhindered sightlines, great freeway cruiser.
Lows: Some high-frequency ride jitters, a sense of fragility off-road.
The Verdict: An SUV that replaces a minivan and comes out grinning.
Link to the full review;
****3rd Place****
2008 Toyota Highlander Sport 4X4
Highs: A rocket to 60 mph, ergonomic center stack, exquisite drivetrain.
Lows: Low-rent cabin surfaces, odd on-center steering feel, slim cargo capacity.
The Verdict: Soothingly carlike family fare that is affordably family fair.
Link to the full review;
****4th Place****
2009 Ford Flex SEL
Highs: World’s best middle-row seats, cool styling, easy ingress/egress.
Lows: Slow to react, a titch too much NVH, wheel too close to the IP.
The Verdict: As functional as pliers but needs to be more carlike to satisfy.
Link to the full review;
****5th Place****
2009 Chevrolet Traverse LT
Highs: Solid structure, good roll control, a cabin as big as an auditorium.
Lows: Too heavy, poor visibility astern, some cheap cockpit surfaces.
The Verdict: Obesity affects every aspect of an SUV’s vehicular health.
Link to the full Review;
****6th Place****
2008 Hyundai Veracruz Limited AWD
Highs: Amenities galore, refined drivetrain, rides like a ’70s-era Caddy.
Lows: Way too much body roll, vague steering, platform feels twistable.
The Verdict: Functional, rational, justifiable—but not much fun to drive.
Link to the full review;
Here is the Test Sheet

Monday, March 3, 2008

Car & Driver's 10 Closet Hogs, No Honda's

Car and Driver Magazine has a pretty cool article about 10 vehicles that have been 'hiding serious drinking problems'. No Honda's on this list, but I thought that some of you would appreciate the article none the less.

BY JARED HOLSTEIN, PHOTOGRAPHY BY AARON KILEY AND THE MANUFACTURERS February 2008

It’s not just big trucks that get lousy fuel economy, either. The culprits of poor fuel economy are many, but common underlying causes include portly curb weights, older drivetrains, and the conscious exclusion of fuel-saving technologies to keep production and purchase prices down. Before you spend your money on a new car, make sure you pay attention to the equipment list, because with the wrong engine or transmission choice, heinous fuel economy is sometimes just a checkbox away.

2008 Saab 9-7X Aero
6.0-liter V-8, 4-speed auto, 4-wheel drive
Link; http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/features_classic_cars/closet_gas_hogs_feature+page-2.html

2008 Jeep Wrangler
3.8-liter V-6, 4-speed auto, 4-wheel drive
Link; http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/features_classic_cars/closet_gas_hogs_feature+page-3.html

2008 Jeep Liberty
3.7-liter V-6, 4-speed auto, 4-wheel drive
Link; http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/features_classic_cars/closet_gas_hogs_feature+page-4.html

2008 Saturn VUE XE
3.5-liter V-6, 6-speed auto, 4-wheel drive
Link; http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/features_classic_cars/closet_gas_hogs_feature+page-5.html

2008 Pontiac G6 GT Convertible
3.9-liter V-6, 4-speed auto, front-wheel drive
Link; http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/features_classic_cars/closet_gas_hogs_feature+page-6.html

2008 Mazda RX-8
1.3-liter 2-rotor, 6-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Link; http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/features_classic_cars/closet_gas_hogs_feature+page-7.html

2008 Mazda CX-7
2.3-liter inline-4, 6-speed auto, 4-wheel drive
Link; http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/features_classic_cars/closet_gas_hogs_feature+page-8.html

2008 Volvo S80
3.2-liter inline-6, 6-speed auto, front-wheel drive
Link; http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/features_classic_cars/closet_gas_hogs_feature+page-9.html

2008 Pontiac Solstice/2008 Saturn Sky
2.4-liter inline-4, 5-speed auto, rear-wheel drive
Link; http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/features_classic_cars/closet_gas_hogs_feature+page-10.html

Anything on E85
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/features_classic_cars/closet_gas_hogs_feature+page-11.html

Monday, February 25, 2008

Car and Driver Magazine Comparison Test; North America's Favourite Sedans

The Buzzard-and-Baloney Brigade - Comparison Test
We compare seven of America’s most popular family sedans, searching for value and verve, and whether there’s really any meat in the middle.

BY JOHN PHILLIPS, PHOTOGRAPHY BY AARON KILEY March 2008
1st Place: 2008 Honda Accord EX Sedan
In its 32-year existence, the Accord has landed on C/D’s 10Best Cars list 22 times. We must have cost Honda a pile of cash in trophy cases alone. In this group, our Accord carried the highest base price, but it was because we wanted to sample the 190 horsepower that comes with the EX, rather than the base LX’s 177. It paid off. Our test car was the second quickest to 60 mph.
The Accord’s essential goodness, however, doesn’t derive from power alone. Even with the standard stability control chipping away, our EX was also the fastest through our lane-change test.

Honda has simply nailed the econosedan formula, and it isn’t just a matter of building the highest-revving engine, the most competent suspension, and the most ergonomic interior. The trick is getting every component talking openly and honestly to every other component. It’s that sonorous mechanical interplay that lends the Accord its agility and charm. Throttle tip-in reminds us of a BMW 3’s, and there’s steady power delivery right up to 7100 rpm. Steering heft and linearity are spot-on, although some of us noted that this new rack doesn’t transmit road textures as clearly as did its forebear. The taut-yet-frictionless chassis makes up for it, however, posting regular updates on available grip. The brakes are easy to modulate. The thin A-pillars let you see around turns. In short, no car in our cast was as eager to establish a friendly rhythm when the roads got tricky.

Although the Accord was tied with the Avenger for loudest idle, it was merely a matter of our microphones registering quantity of sound versus quality.

Like the Sonata, the Accord is now officially a large sedan, with the extra room paying dividends abaft. For two or three adults, the rear seat proved the most spacious in this group. But try it yourself—the seatback is steeply reclined. We loved the three-tier dash, whose bulges and contours place all secondary controls at your fingertips. Which is lucky, because the center stack—ahem—contains 34 buttons.

We wish the Accord came with a manumatic, but you can shift manually by pulling straight back from D, to D3, to 2, to 1. Left to its own devices, the five-speed is prescient about holding lower gears on downhill grades and during spirited driving.

Like its predecessors, this latest Accord contains real meat in the middle. And that ain’t no baloney

Highs: Telepathic interplay among chassis, engine, and transmission.
Lows: Needlessly complex center stack, could use more steering feel.
The Verdict: Another Accord? We’ve pretty much run out of nice things to say.

2nd Place: 2008 Nissan Altima 2.5S Sedan
Write up; http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparison_test/sedans/the_buzzard_and_baloney_brigade_comparison_test+page-7.html
Highs: Drag-strip king, a real corner carver, a Mosler vault of a platform.
Lows: CVT not to everyone’s liking, no stability control, dour cockpit.
The Verdict: True dual personality—fun in the hills, serene on the interstates.

3rd Place: 2008 Chevrolet Malibu LT Sedan
Write up; http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparison_test/sedans/the_buzzard_and_baloney_brigade_comparison_test+page-6.html
Highs: Elegant cockpit, superb engine isolation, a handsome lad.
Lows: A little heavy, needs more than four gears, fat A- and C-pillars.
The Verdict: The best four-cylinder mainstream car GM has ever built.

4th Place: 2009 Hyundai Sonata Limited Sedan
Write up; http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparison_test/sedans/the_buzzard_and_baloney_brigade_comparison_test+page-5.html
Highs: Soothing interstate cruiser, pillowy ride, delectable manumatic.
Lows: Too much body roll, could do with a stiffer platform.
The Verdict: One foot deeper into Honda Accord territory.

5th Place: 2009 Toyota Camry LE Sedan
Write up; http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparison_test/sedans/the_buzzard_and_baloney_brigade_comparison_test+page-4.html
Highs: Eerily quiet, Lexus-like switchgear, limousine ride.
Lows: Early understeer, too much body roll, plastic hubcaps.
The Verdict: Practical and tranquil but not much of a dancer.

6th Place: 2008 Ford Fusion SEL Sedan
Write up; http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparison_test/sedans/the_buzzard_and_baloney_brigade_comparison_test+page-3.html
Highs: Sharp styling, leather interior, thoughtful ride-and-handling trade-off.
Lows: Too little power and a transmission that spoils the party.
The Verdict: Right face, wrong drivetrain.

7th Place: Dodge Avenger SXT Sedan
Write up; http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparison_test/sedans/the_buzzard_and_baloney_brigade_comparison_test+page-2.html
Highs: Good fuel economy, easy-to-read gauges, inexpensive.
Lows: A festival of NVH, hard interior surfaces, feels insubstantial.
The Verdict: A mid-size sedan relying almost entirely on its sticker price.

Monday, January 28, 2008

Honda Civic Si -VS- VW Golf GTI

Here's a nice comparison between to rival cars by Josh Jacquot, Senior Road Test Editor at Edmund's Online. I know it is a couple of years old, but the two cars are virtually the same today, so I didn't think it would matter.

Here are most of the highlights;

Honda's Civic Si comes with an i-VTEC-motivated 2.0-liter four-cylinder pumping out 197 hp at 7,800 rpm. Honda relies on engine speed instead of boost for motivation, so torque is only 139 lb-ft. Like the GTI, the Civic comes with a six-speed manual transmission as standard equipment, but unlike the GTI, it uses a helical limited-slip differential to put power to the ground.

This contest was close almost everywhere. Both cars have similar power, offer similar features and have similar build quality inside and out. Plus, their performance numbers were a wash. Quarter-mile and 0-60 times were only one-tenth of a second apart.

But there were two critical areas that made a difference in this battle: weight and cost. The GTI has more of both and together they were enough to tip the scale in the Si's favor. Yanking around about 400 pounds of extra ballast hurt the GTI's connection to the road, and the additional $3,335 it takes out of your wallet won't do your children's college fund any favors.

These two factors combined to turn our scoring system against the German hatchback. However, the reality is that it's an exceptional car — and probably more versatile than the Si given its shape and configurable cargo area. Its engine is also far more flexible than the Honda's and its chassis is a huge improvement over previous GTIs.

The Civic, too, is a nice machine. Despite design features we can't stand, like the two-tiered instrument cluster and A-pillars that rival the span of Golden Gate Bridge, there's no denying that it's sharper than the GTI when it comes to hard driving. And it's a heck of a lot less expensive.

In a class where most buyers will use these vehicles as their only car, practicality and performance both count. Costing 15 percent less, possessing better handling and being just as quick or quicker make for a strong argument in the Honda's favor, giving the Civic the win.

Both really nice cars; here is the whole article;

Friday, January 25, 2008

Car & Driver Magazine Small SUV Comparison

9X SUV's. The Ford Escape VS Honda CR-V VS Hyundai Tucson VS Jeep Liberty VS Nissan Rogue VS Mitsubishi Outlander VS Saturn Vue VS Suzuki Grand Vitara VS Toyota RAV4. This is a pretty cool comparison, comparing the different vehicles 'off-road' worthiness! A few surprises here.
1st PLACE: 2008 Toyota Rav4 4X4 4cylinder
Highs: Spacious back seat, Toyota ergonomics, Toyota resale value.
Lows: Noisy at WOT, needs a fifth gear, ought to come with alloy wheels.
The Verdict: Chassis, drivetrain, and body all speaking the same language.
2nd PLACE: 2008 Honda CRV EX 4WD 4cylinder
Highs: Amazing fit and finish, a cockpit as cheerful as an Easter hat.
Lows: Odd-looking nose, could use a manual lock for the rear axle.
The Verdict: Dynamically a TKO. A tsunami of quality, verve, and value.
3rd PLACE: 2008 Nissan Roque SL AWD 4cylinder
Highs: Go-get-’em handling, steering, and acceleration.
Lows: Grim rear visibility, nervous off-road, somber interior.
The Verdict: A stunning example of extracting the most from the least.
4th PLACE: 2008 Mitsubishi Outlander SE 4WD 4cylinder
Highs: Clever liftgate, carlike on pavement, hauls a lot o’ stuff.
Lows: Cheap-looking interior, gritty engine noise, vague steering.
The Verdict: Crisp exterior styling but dynamically bland.
5th PLACE: 2008 Suzuki Grand Vitara 4WD XSport 6cylinder
Highs: Strong in the muck, macho styling, as solid as a tank.
Lows: Cramped interior, noisy at idle, somber and soulless cockpit.
The Verdict: A mini SUV with the heart of a Hummer.
6th PLACE: 2008 Saturn Vue XE AWD 6cylinder
Highs: Luxo interior, soothing interstate cruiser, Euro suspension tuning.
Lows: Daggerlike lumbar supports, smaller inside than it looks.
The Verdict: A handsome lad who is 400 pounds overweight.
7th PLACE: 2008 Ford Escape XLT AWD ?cylinder
Highs: Open and airy cockpit, an accomplished long-distance cruiser.
Lows: Needs more isolation from road noise, could use a fifth gear.
The Verdict: Honest and attractive, but the freshening didn’t go far enough.
8th PLACE: 2007 Hyundai Tucson Limited 4WD 6cylinder
Highs: Vaultlike platform, a bull in the mud, a brand name with cachet.
Lows: Cramped seats and footwells,too heavy, dismal fuel economy.
The Verdict: Happy in the mountains of Montana, unhappy on errands in Minneapolis.
9th PLACE: 2008 Jeep Liberty Limited 4x4 6cylinder
Highs: Vaultlike platform, a bull in the mud, a brand name with cachet.
Lows: Cramped seats and footwells,too heavy, dismal fuel economy.
The Verdict: Happy in the mountains of Montana, unhappy on errands in Minneapolis.
Interesting read.
BTW: Here is a link to the overall scores;

Tuesday, January 8, 2008

Edmunds 4 Cylinder Comparison Test; Accord VS Camry VS Malibu

It's nice to see a 4 cylinder comparison between these cars, b/c I find most reviews are on the V6, but most people end up with the 4 cylinder. The 4 cylinder engine in the Accord from what I have found drives more like a small V6 anyway. (I used to drive a 1995 Pontiac Grand Am GT 3.1 litre V6 and I think the 4 cylinder in the Accord would put the 3.1 litre to bed.) I imagine the 4 cylinder in the new Malibu would be pretty energetic too (haven't driven one yet), and I know the Camry has a nice 4 cylinder as well. Anyway, onward to the write up highlights;

3rd Place: 2007 Toyota Camry LE Sedan AT
A front-wheel-drive midsize sedan with a four-cylinder engine is an inherently sensible form of transportation. But the Toyota Camry LE takes it to an extreme, asking its driver to forgo all involvement in the motoring experience in trade for a soft, isolated ride, carefully insulated from the travails of everyday life. Similarly, the car's gray-on-gray interior is spacious, ergonomically sound and loaded with storage slots, but nonessential styling touches are kept to a minimum. It led to sensory deprivation, we discovered, and it further detracted from a car that had some deficits in feature content and had been built with inconsistent levels of fit and finish.

Our misgivings about the Camry's dynamics extend beyond the test track, where it managed 0.79g around the skid pad and 62.0 mph through the slalom — slowest of the group. Even in normal traffic, the Toyota feels less in touch with the road than the others, and its steering, although reasonably precise, feels pretty vacant on- or off-center. Turn-in response is leisurely, and there's more body roll than in the others. Altogether, it compromises the driver's confidence.

Life in Camryland isn't all bad, though. It turns a tighter circle at 36.1 feet than either the Accord at 37.7 feet or Malibu at 40.4 feet, making it less stressful to maneuver in crowded areas. The Toyota also stopped the shortest from 60 mph at 122 feet.

And just like the V6 version, the four-cylinder Toyota Camry is quick relative to its competition. Our LE test car's 8.9-second 0-60-mph time is tops for this group, as is its 16.9-second quarter-mile at 82.3 mph (though the Accord, which has 19 more horsepower, nearly closed the gap).

It's no wonder the Camry produces such numbers, as our California car with its PZEV-rated 2.4-liter inline-4 produces 155 horsepower at 6,000 rpm and 158 pound-feet of torque at 4,000 rpm. (The non-PZEV engine delivers 158 hp and 161 lb-ft of torque.) It felt more responsive in city traffic than the inline-4s of the Chevy and Honda. Power delivery is about as smooth as it gets with four cylinders.

Upshifts from the Camry's five-speed automatic are buttery under full throttle, but downshifts come late in part-throttle situations. When the transmission finally drops a gear, it shifts up again at the earliest opportunity. While this behavior infuriates people like us, the justification is obvious, since the Camry returned the highest fuel economy during this test at 24 mpg.

Although you get a full set of power driver-seat adjustments in a Toyota Camry LE, the shape of the seat and the steering wheel's limited telescoping range make it hard to get comfortable. In addition, the Camry offers the least front headroom and legroom, even though it has the second-most passenger volume.

Evidently, those extra inches went to the backseat, as the Camry has the most rear legroom. Thanks to careful exhaust packaging, the Toyota also has a hump-free rear floor, making it easier to stuff three co-workers in back on carpool days.

Useful and wholesome, the 2007 Toyota Camry LE is a safe choice for a midsize sedan. But the Accord and Malibu prove that modern family cars needn't play it this straight.

2nd Place: 2008 Chevrolet Malibu Sedan 2LT AT
As extroverted as the Camry is demure, the 2008 Chevrolet Malibu flashes a proud bowtie smile each time you walk up to it. There's good reason to smile back.

In this test, the Chevy offered the best balance between ride comfort and agility. Our 2LT test car also earned high marks for cabin design while offering some desirable amenities that weren't even available as options on the other cars. Although it lost points for its uninspiring acceleration and braking performance, the '08 Malibu is long on personality for a four-cylinder midsize sedan.

Instrumented testing is rarely kind to non-sporting cars, and here the Malibu was exposed as a nose-led front-driver with pedestrian, electrically assisted power steering. It was, however, quicker than the Camry through the slalom at 62.9 mph, and thanks to meatier P225/50R17 tires (versus P215/60R16s on the others) it managed the highest grip on the skid pad at 0.84g.

On public roads, the Chevy's appeal came into sharper focus. The Malibu isn't as firmly suspended as the Accord, but its additional compliance doesn't detract significantly from its cornering ability. Pinpoint accuracy continues to elude GM's electric steering, but this setup with decently weighted levels of effort represents a vast improvement over the previous-generation Malibu.

Braking hardware is identical across the 2008 Chevrolet Malibu line, and after measuring a 123-foot 60-0 stop from the V6 version, we expected the lighter four-cylinder car to perform similarly. Instead, our 2LT tester used up 140 feet of tarmac and went from 1st to worst in this category.

Since the brakes weren't malfunctioning, our guess is the slow-cycling antilock brake system was optimized for the V6 model, which has more weight over its nose and wears P225/50R18 Goodyear Eagle LS rubber. Although the four-cylinder car's 17-inch Hankook Optimo H725A tires delivered decent lateral grip, their straight-line stick was no better than a declawed cat's.

A 9.5-second effort to 60 mph and a 17.8-second quarter-mile run at 80.9 mph landed the Malibu in 3rd place for acceleration, but its 2.4-liter engine deserves credit as the most refined four-cylinder available in a domestic-brand midsize car. The Honda and Toyota fours are still smoother and sound better, but Chevrolet has done a commendable job of suppressing the amount of racket that penetrates the firewall. And with 169 hp at 6,400 rpm and 160 lb-ft of torque at 4,500 rpm, the Malibu's motor gives up nothing on paper when it comes to power, either.

Unfortunately, it's paired with an outdated four-speed automatic transmission. Downshifts arrive more quickly than in the Camry, but the engine falls out of its power band with each upshift. Chevrolet will offer a new six-speed automatic with the 2.4-liter in the spring of 2008, though only on the more expensive LTZ trim level. The company says LT models will get the six-speed for '09.

No slack needs to be cut for the '08 Chevrolet Malibu's cabin. Gauges in individual binnacles and a unifying character line on the dash and door panels provide eye candy for dazed commuters, yet the control layout is just as straightforward as in the imports. The quality of the materials is a couple steps below that of the Accord, but if you can ignore the few chintzy plastics, you'll be fine.

The front seats are well shaped, but a small range of steering wheel adjustment along with offset brake and gas pedals makes the driving position awkward. In addition, the Malibu is a couple inches narrower than the others, and this directly impacts hip- and shoulder room. If defensive linemen will be riding in your family sedan, you'll do better with the fat-boy Accord.

Though our 2008 Chevrolet Malibu 2LT tester had some ragged edges, its 2nd-place finish demands a moment's pause. After all, this is a four-cylinder, front-wheel-drive sedan from General Motors, and we like it more than the best-selling car in the United States.

1st Place: 2008 Honda Accord LX Sedan AT
Alongside the Malibu's staggering climb to legitimacy, the eighth-generation Honda Accord has quietly become the best family sedan ever.

Even in everyman's LX-P grade, the level of substance and attention to detail in this car is beyond anything else in this price range. With a bit more low-end engine torque and a couple choice additions to the standard equipment list, the Accord's 5.5-point victory would have been a double-digit margin.

Seating yourself in the Honda provides an immediate sense of well-being. It has the most passenger volume of the group, yet doesn't feel monstrous in its dimensions. In Honda tradition, the cowl is low and the pillars are slender. The driving position is close to perfect, with ample adjustment range for both the seat and the steering wheel, and visibility is the best of the three.

Honda has taken flak for using hard plastic on the top of the 2008 Accord's dash, but in reality, these cabin furnishings are best in class. The button-cluttered center stack looks overwhelming compared to the more calming layouts in the Camry and Malibu, but large buttons and logical organization keep it from being annoying to use. The stereo's aux jack is tidily secreted away under the center armrest.

Our 2008 Honda Accord LX-P proved to be the crispest handling car of the group by far. Its steering is precise and communicative, and body control is excellent even through tighter turns. Firm, linear brake pedal action added to the Honda's secure feel.

Not only did the Accord record the highest average speed through the slalom at 63.3 mph, it was the only one of the sedans with a cornering attitude that proved responsive to throttle control. Its 0.81g performance was 2nd to the Malibu, but the Honda's modest P215/60R16 Dunlop SP Sport 7000 A/S tires were the limiting factor. The Accord was 2nd to the Camry in braking with a respectable 126-foot stop from 60 mph.

The downside to the '08 Accord's athleticism is that some of you may find its ride quality too firm compared to the Malibu. In addition, this new Accord had a little more road noise than we'd like, just like every other Accord before it. Highway-speed readings of ambient noise were similar for all three sedans, however.

Low-end torque is not a strong suit of the Accord's 2.4-liter engine, which is rated at 177 hp at 6,500 rpm and 161 lb-ft at 4,300 rpm. In typical Honda fashion, though, power builds as you move up the tach, with the most dramatic change coming at 5,000 rpm when the variable valve timing switches over to more aggressive camshaft profiles.

This was evident during acceleration testing, where the Accord ran to 60 mph in 9.3 seconds, yet nearly caught up with the Camry in the quarter-mile traps with a run of 17.1 seconds at 81.9 mph. Keep in mind it's possible to buy a faster four-cylinder Accord, as the EX trim level ($24,495 with an automatic) gets a 190-hp version of the 2.4-liter engine.

Either way, Honda's five-speed automatic transmission is geared to take advantage of the engine's unique power band. It's also quicker with shifts than the other automatics, which made our Accord LX-P test car feel sharper in freeway traffic.

Perhaps as a consequence of this responsiveness, the Honda averaged only 20 mpg — lowest of the group. Better fuel economy should be possible, though, as its EPA rating of 21 city/31 highway is identical to the Camry's.

The 2008 Honda Accord LX-P's victory here wasn't due to dominance in any one particular category. Instead, it won by performing well in all categories. It had the largest and most comfortable interior and the highest overall level of refinement, and it was the most engaging and satisfying car to drive.

Here's the link to the whole article;
By Erin Riches, Senior Content Editor
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=124091#2

Monday, December 10, 2007

Comparison Test: 2007-2008 V6 Family Sedans; 2008 Honda Accord VS 2008 Chevy Malibu VS 2007 Toyota Camry VS 2007 Nissan Altima

Edmunds Engineering Editor Jason Kavanagh did a nice write up comparing the 2008 Honda Accord EX-L V6 Sedan, 2007 Nissan Altima 3.5 SE Sedan, 2008 Chevrolet Malibu LTZ V6 Sedan, and the 2007 Toyota Camry XLE V6 sedan.

Each of the four entrants chosen for their comparison test represents the highest available trim level, and each is also packed with nearly every available option and an overachieving V6 power plant driving the front wheels. Heck, the least powerful engine in this test churns out 252 horsepower, a figure that was unheard of in the mainstream sedan world not long ago.

Here's the results;

1st Place: 2008 Honda Accord EX-L V6 Sedan

The 2008 Accord isn't the cheapest, fastest or most feature-laden car in our comparison. But if you're familiar with the Goldilocks effect, you already know how the Accord came to finish in 1st place.The Accord is a full 2.4 inches wider than the Malibu and devotes all of this to interior space, and the result is a notable impression of spaciousness combined with excellent visibility. Rear seat passengers are likewise treated very well, with ample thigh support and space easily sufficient for 6-footers during long road trips. There are also more useful storage bins and little nooks than in the other cars in this comparison.The quality of the materials is best in class. And since there are few of the usual chrome-plated bits masquerading as style items, the number of distracting reflections is kept to an absolute minimum. One area of the interior that could use some more work is the busy collection of buttons on the Accord's center stack. They're large and clearly labeled, but there are just too many of them lined up like bathroom tiles. On the other hand, the interface for the Accord EX-L's navigation system is the most intuitive to use by far, and there's thankfully no touchscreen to accumulate smeared fingerprints.Though it has a large cabin, the Accord doesn't drive like a large car. Its steering manages to be quick and communicative right around center, and this helps make the driving experience feel natural and intuitive. As it goes down the road, the Accord responds to surface imperfections with crisp suspension action that has just enough compliance to minimize complaints from the passengers, yet keep the driver in touch with reality. At the same time, we'll acknowledge that the Accord does feel a little too busy over some pocks and bumps, so the Honda engineers still have something to fuss over.Acceleration from the Accord's mannerly 3.5-liter SOHC V6 trails the pack on paper, since midrange grunt is not this engine's strong suit. Nevertheless, the Accord manages to squirt through the urban jungle with respectable speed thanks in large part to its cooperative five-speed transmission. Though the competition has adopted six-speed transmissions, Honda's five-speed manages to overcome its disadvantage with smart calibration and quick shift action. You won't miss the extra gear while climbing hills, since the transmission's excellent grade logic makes for frustration-free ascents.This V6 also incorporates cylinder deactivation, a system that promises to improve fuel economy, and it's easier to feel the transition between the system's modes than we'd hoped. Nevertheless, the Accord's EPA fuel economy estimates of 19 city/29 highway are the best in this group (once the 2007 models are adjusted to the 2008 EPA standards), and we're curious to see if the expected gains will materialize during our extended test of this long-term car. So far we've seen an average of 22.8 mpg over 2,200 miles, just slightly better than the 21.2 mpg over 18,575 miles recorded by our long-term Altima.Chart-topping evaluation scores and strong feature content at the second-lowest price in our test give the Accord the edge. And this reflects the wave of progress in this class of family sedans. Though these cars are not Camry-like in detail, they share the Camry's overall spirit of well-equipped quality, a measure of luxury in the family sedan world. The Chevrolet Malibu, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima and Toyota Camry have now left behind any overtones of down-size cheapness and embraced a new spirit of full-size sophistication.

2nd Place: 2007 Nissan Altima 3.5 SE Sedan

Of all the sedans tested here, the Nissan Altima is the most sporting of the bunch. Not just because it blasts past the competition with a 67.3-mph pass through the slalom, but also because it feels just right through the controls. Thanks to the weight of the steering effort and character of the response, the action and feel of the brake pedal, and the suspension's firm control of body motion, the Altima speaks more clearly to enthusiasts than any other car here.At the same time, you don't have to be a car nut to appreciate the benefits of a communicative driving experience. The more attuned a driver is to a vehicle, the more confidence he will have behind the wheel. And as far as we're concerned, safety begins with confidence.Stiff tire sidewalls and firm damping contribute to the Nissan's precise character on the road, but they also produce a choppy ride, and this is the downside to the Altima's sporty bent. In addition, this is the only car in our test that recommends the use of premium fuel — the others drink regular, which can add up to real savings in the long run.Nissan's 270-hp 3.5-liter V6 has received accolades for years, and it remains a terrific all-around performer. The big surprise this time is that the Altima's continuously variable transmission (CVT) reaps the highest scores of any gearbox in our test.This CVT behaves as if it's been hard-wired into the mind of the driver, as its ability to know when to let 'er rip and when to dial things back is completely uncanny. The CVT also helps lend the Altima a far more eager disposition than the quicker-by-the-clock Malibu. And we love the CVT's refined yet super-quick manual-mode shift program.Broad, flat front seats are a glaring flaw in the Altima's driver-oriented mission, as they don't provide the support that's necessary. Backseat passengers fare better, though headroom is lacking. The surroundings in either situation are of high quality, if on the austere side.If you want features, the Altima is the car for you. Armed with a back-up camera, dual-zone HVAC, a keyless ignition system, DVD-based navigation, sunroof and Bluetooth, our Altima is the most comprehensively equipped sedan here.You pay for all this, though. At $32,545 as-tested, the Altima is the most expensive car of the bunch, a factor that takes a toll on the car's final placement in this comparison. And be aware that the Altima's options are clustered into expensive packages rather than being available à la carte.

3rd Place: 2008 Chevrolet Malibu LTZ


The 2008 Malibu has literally entered the big time. Riding on a longer wheelbase and weighing more than any of its rivals, the 2008 Malibu has stepped up both its size and its game. As if to underscore its arrival, the big Chevy's presence is graced with distinctively elegant styling.At the same time, there are practical compromises forced by the Malibu's style. The small greenhouse and thick C-pillars noticeably compromise outward visibility and impart a less spacious feel to the cabin. Meanwhile, the high-bustle tail has the highest trunk liftover height in our test. On the plus side, the Malibu's deck lid has scissor-type hinges that don't intrude on trunk space at all, unlike the gooseneck hinges on the other cars.Though our opinions about the interior color scheme of this Malibu LTZ were sharply divided, we all agree that the interior itself simultaneously impresses and frustrates. The Malibu's dashboard is impeccably fitted, yet the black plastic pieces look cheap. And if you're looking for dual-zone HVAC, Bluetooth compatibility, and keyless ignition, you won't find them in the Malibu, as this car's cost-conscious character means they can't even be found on the options list. However, OnStar is standard on the Malibu, a feature no other car in this comparison offers.Freeway cruises are a treat in the Malibu, as it's extremely quiet and quells wind noise better than any other car in our test. The front seats were universally lauded as the best in this bunch thanks to a first-rate combination of both comfort and support. By contrast, the rear seat offers the least amount of useful space and the fewest frills of all the cars here. Rear headroom is snug, the seat cushions are flat and there's no flip-down center armrest. (The Malibu is the only car here without one.)On the dynamic front, the Malibu's steering lacks feel, yet the effort loads up nicely in a corner and matches the well-controlled body motions. In fact, the Malibu sports the best compromise between ride and handling in our test, admirably dispensing with road harshness while still maintaining composure on winding bits of pavement. Moreover, the Malibu's brakes have plenty of stopping power, and this car turns in the shortest stopping distance from 60 mph.The Malibu ties the Camry in the sprint to 60 mph and posts the second-quickest quarter-mile time thanks to the solid traction available when it's launched hard. The Chevy's trap speed in the quarter-mile reflects a power deficit in this comparison, yet 252 hp and 251 pound-feet of torque from the 3.6-liter DOHC V6 ensure the Malibu never feels lacking for oomph when the throttle pedal meets the carpet.The Malibu's six-speed automatic transmission garners some black marks from us due to its lazy part-throttle calibration, which dulls the engine's potency. Top gear is summoned at every opportunity, and the gearbox doggedly refuses to downshift in a timely fashion. This is clearly a measure to enhance fuel economy, yet it also gives the car a sluggish disposition around town despite the V6's respectably broad power band.With a $27,245 as-tested price that undercuts its competition, the Malibu has a head start in our test scoring, but a relative lack of equipment and indifferent evaluation scores ultimately place it midpack. These shortcomings aside, the Malibu is a stylish, impressive car that commands attention and also deserves it.

4th Place: 2007 Toyota Camry XLE V6 Sedan

Kapow! The Camry, the clear winner of our last comparison test for V6 sedans, has been blown off by its newly refurbished rivals. Though it finishes in last place, the Camry remains well-equipped and powerful, but it's simply been leapfrogged by a new generation of competitors, largely because of driving dynamics.And we're not just referring to driving on the ragged edge like some hooligan either. Even in routine driving, the Camry's soft ride and deliberate chassis responses make it feel poorly controlled, as if it's wallowing down the road. Similarly, the Camry's steering is reasonably precise, yet it feels almost completely numb. The result is a limp driving character that seems even more pronounced in contrast to the far more engaging personalities of its rivals. The Malibu in particular demonstrates that body control and a compliant ride are not mutually exclusive.Then you floor the throttle and the Camry aims to erase these impressions, flinging itself to the quarter-mile mark in 14.9 seconds at 96.4 mph, quicker and faster than any other car in this test. Its 268-hp V6 and six-speed automatic combine to deliver a sweet powertrain, with plenty of power everywhere in the rev range and a willingness to flex its muscles even during routine driving. Several times we found ourselves remarking that the Camry's chassis is almost comically overshadowed by the refined performance of this V6.Front headroom is tight for anyone taller than 6 feet, but the Camry XLE's backseat accommodations are pretty luxurious. There is plenty of space, plus contoured seats that recline, a feature not found in any of the other sedans. Unfortunately, this design forces the deletion of the 60/40-split-folding function, and there's just a small pass-through into the trunk. Lesser trim levels of the Camry offer a split-folding seat, so you can decide whether your priority is passenger accommodation or available cargo volume.The build quality of our Camry test car trailed the others, and we noted more inconsistent interior panel gaps and interior squeaks and rattles than we'd expect from a car with fewer than 11,000 miles. The equipment level of this XLE model is fairly high, but it also results in the second highest as-tested price of $31,619, which proves to be yet another factor that weighs against it in the final analysis.Time has marched on, and what was outstanding a year ago is merely good today.

Here's a link to the article;

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=123842?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..1.*#68